Mike IversonMusic, clawhammer banjo, and more...

Music, clawhammer banjo, and more...

Progressive Clawhammer Forum

As regular visitors to my site know, I am trying to establish an online home for progressive banjoists. The key for making this dream a reality lies in providing a forum where like-minded banjo players can meet and exchange ideas.

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With this in mind, I launched a new site with a progressive clawhammer forum embedded into it’s pages. Although initially excited about the forum, it soon became apparent there were a number of problems that needed to be addressed.

The first indication that things weren't going as I had envisioned was the appearance of Google AdSense videos. I had signed up for an “ad free” experience for forum members, but Google AdSense videos began to show up whenever a member video was posted. The Google video ads were not only distracting, but when embedded into my website, they sometimes covered up the videos posted by forum members! This was, of course, unacceptable...

It wasn't long before other issues were brought to my attention by forum members. I contacted the hosting service, Hyperboards, to share my concerns. After waiting a few days, I closed my account and started to explore other forum hosting options. I then spent a week downloading and experimenting with all sorts of forum hosting software; a very frustrating process. It was about this time that the founder of Hyperboards emailed me with the following message:

I replied to your post on the Hyperboards Support Forum. I hope it is okay that I am emailing you. In my reply, I said: Forums are only "marked" as deleted and taken away from public view (for legal reasons). I can bring your forum back as nothing is actually deleted.

I have brought your forum back online. Please let me know if I can do anything to help you out. I would hate to see you go!

Adam Petersen

To say I was surprised would be grossly understating my reaction; I have never had a CEO take such a personal interest in my work before. I then logged back on to the Hyperboards support forum to check out Adam's responses to my complaints:

Mike: I tried to embed my board in an iframe on my website. Everything worked well except when a video was posted; the narrower format of the iframe caused the Google video ad to superimpose itself over the posted video! Very frustrating... Is there a way to disable Google AdSense or another workaround for this?

Adam: I didn't realize this was happening. This is definitely not good! I will fix it right away...

edit: This should now be fixed so that one won't get squished into the other, but rather one will bump down so they will appear in vertical order.

Mike: Why doesn't my "Ad Free" for guests block the Google AdSense?

Adam: It should block the video ads, but I can see that it clearly doesn't. I will fix this right away as well!

edit: Ad-free should have been and is now working to remove the video ads. I'm very sorry for overlooking this when I implemented video embedding a little while back.

Mike: Those trying to log on to my board are complaining that the process is not very intuitive (many are just "giving up"). Is this issue being addressed?

Adam: We want your users to find the process easy, fluid, and intuitive. Can you please give me as much detail about the complaints as possible? Then, I will see what I can do to improve the system.

Mike: There is no way I'm getting as many page views as is indicated on my ad-free information page. Are you making me pay for "crawlers" who visit my board?

Adam: We have a system in place to prevent crawlers from counting as ad-free page views, but let me take a closer look at things and get back to you.

edit: I've decided to just do away with tracking guests for Ad-free altogether. We've had complaints about ad-free page views going down too quickly due to crawlers in the past and I thought our system was compensating enough, but it appears it is not. It's too unreliable to try to track bots and after some thought I don't think an additional payment is fair since most page views on a forum come from registered members and I'd like to keep things as simple as possible. From now on, if your forum has ad-free enabled, guests don't count against your ad-free page views and they automatically get ad-free.

Thank you for bringing these issues to my attention. I will make some fixes and get back to you shortly.

At this point I began to suspect I was dealing with a pretty special organization and was regretting my decision to delete my forum. With this in mind I wrote:

I feel really bad right now. As you were busy tackling all the issues I'd raised, I was deleting my forum. I'm very impressed by your customer service and your forum site; I now wish I'd checked the support forum one last time before hitting the delete button...

To which Adam replied:

Forums are only "marked" as deleted and taken away from public view (for legal reasons). I can bring your forum back as nothing is actually deleted. Unfortunately, your user accounts on forums DO get deleted so I can't bring that back, but your global account is still intact and your admin account on your forum. So you will just need to re-register here to have an account again.

I am going to email you this info as well, I hope that is alright.

Sincerely, Adam

I was now very curious as what might be motivating Adam as he seemed to be working around the clock to take care of every issue I had brought to his attension. The answer came to me when I did a quick check on the Hyperboards website and found the following statement:

I founded Hyperboards way back in 2002 with the goal of making the most user-friendly and robust free forum hosting service out there. Helping people is a passion and I'm glad to have such wonderful users who help give back to the Hyperboards community and I want to do everything I can to help them thrive. - Adam Petersen

I was now convinced that Hyperboards was the "real deal" and decided to stay with their service despite being worried about the difficulties some were having with the registration process. Those fears were put to rest when I received the following email:

Mike, I wanted to update you on my progress for making registrations easier.

I have taken a few steps toward a more fluid and transparent signup process for a better user experience:

1. Made the CAPTCHA more apparent and added a link explaining what a CAPTCHA is.
2. Attempted to make the warning about a verification email stand out more on the signup page.
3. Added a Registration Complete page that the user is taken to after registering. This page notifies them that they have been sent a verification email and that they must click on the link provided before they are able to login.

I will continue to try and improve the registration process in between working on other projects (such as version 3). Please let me know if you have any ideas as well. Cheers!

Best Regards,Adam Petersen

Wow. Within a two week period the founder of this company took care of every single concern I'd raised and was constantly updating me on his progress with personal emails. I am sold. I highly recommend Hyperboards to anyone who, like me, is a computer-phobe and isn't fluent in "geek speak"!

Once again, I apologize to all who registered to my forum and will now have to do so again; I promise that the registration process is no longer as confusing. I truly feel this forum is important for the advancement of clawhammer technique and want to see our progressive clawhammer community flourish...

- Mike


Give Me The Banjo!

This Friday evening, PBS stations across the county will be airing a special documentary on the banjo. This is a “must see” for all banjoists (and all the spouses, family, and friends who have to put up with them!).

I’m hoping this Special focuses on the early history of the banjo, and especially the African/African-American connection with the instrument...

Rhiannon from The Banjo Project on Vimeo.

I’ve long thought that the banjo was the “missing link” in the history of American music; that one vehicle in which the music of Africa and Europe joined together to make the journey through the 19th century - creating the “American Songbag” along the way.

Here in northern Utah, the program will air on:

KUED HD Channel 7.1
Fri Nov 4th, 2011 @ 8:00 pm
Mon Nov 7th, 2011 @ 1:00 am

Mark your calendars (or set your tivo) to catch this program...


The piano may do for lovesick girls who lace themselves to skeletons, and lunch on chalk, pickles, and slate pencils. But give me the banjo... When you want genuine music—music that will come right home to you like a bad quarter, suffuse your system like strychnine whiskey…ramify your whole constitution like the measles, and break out on your hide like the pin-feather pimples on a picked goose—when you want all this, just smash your piano, and invoke the glory-beaming banjo! - Mark Twain


Review: Gold Tone Cello Banjo


Mike and cello banjo
Three years ago this coming November I was in Albuquerque visiting family, doing some shows, and conducting a banjo workshop.  It was there that I had my first encounter with the cello banjo.

Judy Muldaur, who had graciously let me conduct the workshop at her home, had in her possession a recently purchased Gold Tone cello banjo.  Judy was very enthusiastic about her new acquisition and wanted my opinion.  I can honesty say that my first reaction was surprise!  Because of the low tuning and very wide neck, I was expecting the instrument to be cumbersome with a tone that was somewhat “mushy”.  I couldn’t have been more wrong.  It turned out that Judy’s cello banjo was very comfortable to play and had a very clear, defined tone.  Like I said, I was surprised...    

As you can see from the following video (thanks for posting this Judy), I knew instantly that this instrument would sound especially nice on "bluesy" tunes.  Here’s a clip of the very first time I laid my hands on a cello banjo:

Having whetted my appetite in Albuquerque, it wasn't long until I had a cello banjo of my own.  As I opened the case for the first time, I was struck by the design and the quality of workmanship displayed by this "import" banjo.  With a peg-head reminiscent of the old Gibson "trap door" banjo, and with very tasteful inlay work, this banjo is simply gorgeous.  (I would love to see Gold Tone come out with a new open-back utilizing this peg-head design in a banjo with a standard sized neck and pot.)

Cello Banjo Peghead
Did I mention workmanship? Gold Tone must have an amazing relationship with their Chinese factory (not to mention the tight quality control) to produce an instrument of this caliber at this price.  Take a close look at the photos accompanying this article and you'll be able to see for yourself that the workmanship and attention to detail is top notch.

As for adjustability, my cello banjo had some "fret buzz" upon arrival and I was pleased to see that a slight turn of the truss rod quickly adjusted the neck relief and took care of the problem.

Strung with the recommended Gold Tone strings, the cello banjo produces plenty of volume for most situations.  Unfortunately, mine isn't "most situations"... 

As a singer, I need an instrument that can be played at low volumes with a very light touch. 

Straight out of the box, I struggled a bit as this instrument was strung with heavy strings, tuned to low G, and wanted to be played hard and loud.  To make the banjo more compatible with my playing style, I tried using the lighter strings (designed for "A" tuning) while keeping the banjo tuned to low "G".  This gave me an instrument that responded well to a lighter touch, but it generated some string buzz whenever I decided to dig into the strings.

Cello Banjo Rim
After a year or so of using this extra light setup, I finally decided to crank the strings up to the recommended "A" tuning. Once again the cello banjo surprised me. I was expecting a significant increase in string tension, but as the cello banjo is strung with nylon strings, this didn't happen. Even tuned up to “A”, the instrument's action was still well within my personal comfort zone. I liked the added clarity of the high tuning but missed the "growl" of the low tuning strung with light strings and so have since gone back to tuning the instrument to G.

Possibly because of my light touch, I tend to use a right hand position that is farther from the bridge than is recommended on the Gold Tone website; but it's still much closer than the position I use on my other banjos .  As always, I feel the individual player should experiment around until they find the best right hand positioning for their own personal style of play.

Here’s an example of why I need an instrument set up to play at lower volume levels:

Cello Banjo Picks
There is a downside to everything and for the clawhammer banjoist, this may be the way in which this instrument is strung.  The cello banjo uses wound strings (all five) which can cause excessive wear to the right hand nails. My solution? When I’m performing with the cello banjo I generally use Dunlop fingerpicks that I’ve modified by filing down the blades (the pick in the photo without the red dot). The shorter blade gives a feel much closer to my natural nails than an unmodified pick. Of course this isn’t an issue if the player has acrylic nails or wears finger picks all the time.

As I mentioned earlier, the Gold Tone cello banjo is VERY comfortable to play.  Here’s an example of a technically difficult tune played on the cello banjo; it handles it well...

It's been fun experimenting with the cello banjo and I'm looking forward to exploring it’s unique sound for years to come.  Highly recommended for any adventurous souls looking to push the boundaries of clawhammer banjo technique...

Mike Iverson


Banjo Tone - The Holy Grail...

The Quest...

I’ve spent a considerable amount of time during the last year tearing apart my Deering/Vega long-neck and then putting it back together.  To the dismay of my long suffering spouse, my kitchen table has been turned into a workbench covered with a variety of banjo heads, tailpieces, bridges, strings and the ungodly amount of instrument repair tools I've collected over the last thirty years.

What precipitated this intrusion into our otherwise simple lifestyles was a simple modification to two of my banjos:  frailing scoops.

What I didn't take into account was the uncontrollable urge to tinker with the setup of my Vega Longneck while the banjo was dismantled.  I mean, what the heck, I had already taken the neck off.  Why not go for it?  So forgetting the cardinal rule that “if it ain't broke - don't fix it”, I gleefully threw myself into the nightmare caused by the endless permutations of tone created by the following variables:

Frailing Scoop

• Head Type
• Head Tension
• Tail Piece Type
• Tail Piece Tension
• Bridge type
• Bridge thickness
• Action (string height)
• String gauge
• Head dampener
• Size of head dampener

(To be quite honest, some of the setup adjustments were unavoidably brought about by changes in my playing technique.  The addition of a scoop will move the right hand's primary playing position further away from the bridge, which then brings about a corresponding change in banjo tone.)

I was having a mason rebuild my fireplace while I was going through this whole process, which explains how I managed to subdue the urge to turn my banjo into firewood and burn it...

The Plan...

Before starting to tinker with my banjo, I had to answer the following questions:

1. What type of tone do I need from my banjo? Do I want a dark, tubby, resonate tone?  A plunky sound?  Or maybe a bright sound that could cut through a noisy jam?

The Answer? My Vega long-neck needed to be versatile enough to function at a contra dance, a Blue Sage Band concert, or a solo performance. In a pinch it might even need to function as a bluegrass banjo!  For this, I decided to shoot for a defined, somewhat plunky sound that was strong in the med-range frequencies.

2. How much volume do I want my banjo to produce under normal playing conditions?  I know that an instrument that is too loud can cause me to "hold back" with my right hand, which will result in thin tone and a loss of accuracy with my right hand.  A quiet instrument can cause me to play too aggressively, resulting in almost the same problems as a loud instrument; my tone and right hand accuracy suffer.

The Answer? I need a relatively quiet banjo, so I toned down my banjo to the point where it wouldn't drown out my voice when playing in an all acoustic setting.  For jams, I use a modified finger pick for extra volume.

3. How high do I need to set the action (string height)? Too low and I'll get string buzzing unless I play everything with a very light right hand touch (which would hurt my tone, accuracy, and volume).  Too high of an action and I won't be able to play comfortably above the fifth fret, and I need the whole fingerboard for my style of play.

The Answer? I tried to find that sweet spot where the action was low enough to allow me to play comfortably in the higher frets, but high enough to not buzz if I "dug in" a bit; not an easy compromise on a long-neck banjo.  This is an ongoing process as outside forces, such as humidity, are constantly trying to thwart all my hard work...

The Journey...

Head 1
Too make sure I wasn’t just listening to my banjo’s tone from the players perspective, I spent a lot of time playing into mirrors and walls; the sound is reflected back and you can get a good idea of what the tone is like “out front”.  You might be surprised to find out that your banjo sounds different to you than to those listening to you.   Notice the two photos accompanying this section of the article.  These are ‘before and after’ shots that show a few of the modifications I undertook to transform the tone of my Deering/Vega long-neck. I’ll point them out as we come to them...

Head - Type & Tension

Changing out the head produced the single greatest change in tone, far more than any other factor.

I found a few surprises while experimenting with banjo heads. For instance, one consequence of changing head types was a drastic change in string action (string height).  If my banjo was setup for a regular frosted head (a relatively loose tension),a switch to a fiberskyn head (high tension) would cause a hugh rise in string height.  If you think you can easily swap out different styles of heads, without swapping bridges or adjusting neck angle, you're in for a very rude awakening...

I tried four different banjo heads with the following results:

- Remo Frosted - the tone was a little too bright by the time I got the tension up to the point where the bridge didn't sag and the unwanted overtones disappeared.

- Remo Renaissance (top picture) - I used one for a couple of years.  Nice plunky tone, but not quite what I was looking for, especially when playing up the neck.

Head 2
- Remo and Elite Fiberskyn (bottom picture) - As I compared the Remo Fiberskyn with the Elite, the results were unexpected. The Remo produced some annoying overtones that I didn't encounter with the Elite.  Now there is a chance that I might have received a defective head from Remo.  I was under the impression that both these heads were probably produced by the same manufacturer and so was expecting the same results. Maybe I was wrong and the heads are made by different manufacturers.  I contacted both Remo and Stewart MacDonald and neither company could (would?) confirm or deny my suspicions.

I found that contrary to the advise usually given concerning head tension for clawhammer banjos, I needed to crank the head up TIGHT when using the Fiberskyn or Elite heads.  Once tightened sufficiently, the Elite had the best tone, up and down the neck, of all the heads I tried out in this trial.

Frailing Scoop

Next to changing head types, the most noticeable change in tone was produced by the addition of a frailing scoop.    Note that this change in tone was due to a change in playing technique; if my right hand position remained the same, so did my tone!  A scoop allows out you to play over the fingerboard which produces a mellower tone.  You can see the new scoop in the bottom photo.

Tailpiece - Type & Tension

I tried three different tailpieces: Presto, Waverly, and No-Knot. Of the three, the Waverly was the hands down winner.  The Presto muted the instrument too much and the No-Knot was a little too "open" (mushy) sounding. The Waverly, coming somewhere in between the other two in length, was the right choice for this particular banjo.

The main tailpiece factors affecting tone are mass, length and tension.  The only way I found to control mass and length, was to swap out tailpieces. That left tension as the only variable I could adjust while actually playing, and the only tailpiece that had a mechanism to adjust tension was the Waverly; which might have given it a slight advantage over the other two. Keep in mind that there are other tailpieces available which have the ability to adjust tension and I encourage you to try them out.

I should also point out that adjusting tailpiece tension is a great way to fine tune tone; it's the final and most frequently performed adjustment I do when setting up my banjos (if equipped with adjustable tailpieces).

Head Dampener  (Mute)

It’s surprising how much the longer neck adds to the total weight of my Vega, and that extra mass means too much sustain (at least for me).  To combat this sustain, I’ve added “dampeners”; strips torn from an old bath towel (terry cloth ) rolled up and placed between the head and the coordinator rods.  By varying the width of the strips, I find I can control the amount of dampening that takes place.  In the top photo, you can see the rolled up terry cloth under the tailpiece.


When I swapped out the armrest, the change in tone was so minor that I didn’t include it in my list above, but you can see in the photos that I did switch armrests (as well as heads and tailpieces).


Although I did swap out my bridges a few times, I stuck with the same builder: Snuffy Smith.  Long ago, I tried a multitude of different bridges and found the Smith bridges to be the most consistent.  I should point out that Snuffy Smith was good enough to build me a few extremely tall bridges which I used on the thinner heads (thanks!).


I didn’t make any changes in brand or string gauges.  If you want more information on the custom string gauges I use on my Deering/Vega Long-neck, you can visit this page: Mike’s Instruments

The Journey’s End?

King Arthur’s quest for the Holy Grail was futile, the point of the quest turned out to be the journey itself and not some prize found at the end.  The lesson learned is that there is no “perfect” banjo tone that works equally well for every song; the key is compromise...

Although I know I’ll be fine tuning the tone of my Vega forever, I’ve now got my banjo sounding close to the goal I set for myself; it’s a good compromise of tone that can work whether I’m playing a dance, a solo show, or even playing bluegrass banjo.

Find the tone that is best for your own personal playing style and don't try to set your banjo up using someone else's formula, including mine!  Remember that the single biggest factor affecting tone is you!

Although the banjo is the "hot rod" of the acoustic music world, and allows you to modify the tone more than any other acoustic instrument, the most important step in setting up your banjo's tone (other than your own personal playing technique) is the instrument itself — so make sure you start with a banjo you love...

Mike Iverson


Bela Fleck - Why you should be listening to his music...

This may sound like a crazy way to kick off a clawhammer banjo blog, but in a weird way it seems appropriate to start off with an entry about a three-finger banjo stylist.  I say this because I can't think of any musician (with the exception of Doc Watson) who has influenced my music more than Bela Fleck.

For those not familiar with Bela, he is a three-finger (bluegrass) banjo player who has effectively taken the instrument into realms that were previously deemed "off limits" to serious banjoists.  About 30 years ago, I remember David Grisman stating that he believed Bela Fleck would do more to popularize the banjo than anyone since Earl Scruggs.   I also remember thinking that this statement seemed pretty pretentious; turns out that I couldn't have been more wrong... Bela Fleck has now been nominated for more Grammy Awards in different catagories than any other musician in history. It’s clear to me that Bela has played a leading role in the changing way the world views the banjo as it is now considered a “serious” instrument by even the jazz and classical communities, which is something I never thought to see in my lifetime.

Bela Fleck’s energy seems unending.  Over the years I’ve heard him effectively using the banjo in musical settings ranging from bluegrass to jazz, rock to classical; if there are harder working musicians in this world, I have yet to encounter them.  Bela’s unwavering efforts to explore the banjo’s potential is truly inspirational, and it's this (inspiration) that makes him the perfect candidate for this blog; the whole idea behind progressive clawhammer banjo is to take the style into uncharted territory, and that's exactly what Bela's been doing with "bluegrass" banjo for the last thirty years!

This next clip is somewhat long, but I love how it demonstrates Bela's ability to seamlessly meld so many musical styles.  Three masters, with completely different backgrounds, coming together in a small room to make improvisational magic happen...

Bela’s impressive improvisational skills may blind us to the fact that he may very well be one of America's best composers and I have no qualms about mentioning his name along with the likes of Copland, Ellington, Joplin, and Bernstein.  Listen carefully to the simple, almost achingly beautiful Fleck composition Sunset Road and you'll forget every stereotype you've had about bluegrass banjo.  I particularly like the section near the end where Fleck and Marsalis double up on the melody...

My daughter Heather and I recently had the pleasure of hearing the original lineup of the Flecktones and I believe it was the best concert I've attended in the last decade.  After the show, Bela came out to visit with some of his fans and I had a chance to explain what I was trying to accomplish with my progressive clawhammer project.  I asked if he would mind if I put up a clawhammer arrangement of one of his compositions and he was more than agreeable to the idea, and even more so when he heard which piece I had in mind to showcase...

Bela Fleck's example should inspire all banjoists (no matter what style we play) to push the limits of our abilities as we explore new territory on our instruments.

It's my wish that all players follow Bela's example by truly listening to those with whom we have the privilege of creating music.  I saw this idea executed to perfection when Fleck joined Bruce Hornsby on stage this summer for a rendition of Mandolin Rain.  Bela Fleck's minimalist approach to this song is amazing; the man knows how to listen... 

For more information about Bela Fleck, visit his official website. You can purchase his music almost anyplace that features a wide variety of musical genres. My recommendations: Bela Fleck & The Flecktones, Tales From The Acoustic Planet, and Perpetual Motion.

Mike Iverson